Thursday, January 10, 2013
MABRC Draws Harsh Criticism From Mike Akaganglian [Daisy / Team Quantra]
Editor's Note: This is a guest post by Akaganglian a Sasquatch enthusiast.
When we first witnessed the MABRC's travails with the "Can't confirm or deny" statement that was actually pointed at Ed Smith, I defended them to a point, but the situation was mis-portrayed by blogs like Lindsay's and the Evidence blog. At that time, Ed never said nor did the MABRC say they had a body; Lindsay pulled that out of his imagination and did so for the hits. It was simple yellow journalism. That was then. This is now. The thing that gave life to the confirm/deny fiasco was the fact that the MABRC leadership seems to suffer from the misconception that any attention is good attention, not so. They could have at least tempered the resulting situation by just letting pass and keeping their mouths shut, but.... we all know they didn't. I was sympathetic to a point at the time, but they did in fact mishandle the situation.
That was then, this is now.... fast forward a few weeks, and now Daisy is in the box. And again the news comes from the same source, Ed Smith, man of mystery, fan of bad sentence forming, military radio chatter-batter and illusions of being the poor's James Bond, not an MABRC member but a member of their forum. No one had ever heard of him until the MABRC, and he rarely if ever spoke outside of any venue that wasn't run by the MABRC. Notice a pattern here?
Here's the thing about Ed Smith; does he in fact even exist? DW Lee and Driver Operator say he does. Should we take their word for it? NO. Both of these guys have made so many baseless claims about squatchy stuff that anything they say should in fact be taken with a minivan sized grain of salt. Blobsquatch here and blobsquatch there, but ever any tangible proof? Never. This is a pattern with them for years. Same the pattern of them going to places like the BFF and then storming off all pissy when people actually want real proof, DO in particular. Boo hoo boys, next time bring actual data. Back to Smith's existence, I really don't know what to think. I have had off the record conversations with multiple parties in a position to know, and some say they've spoken to him, some say he's Lee's imaginary friend. The point being, you hear so many different things you end up not really sure what to believe. Is this the point? It’s part of a larger point or sequence of points.
- First larger point: You would think the MABRC would have learned from the previous Confirm/Deny mishap, but they didn’t, and likely never will, any attention is good attention after all, in their little world. Whether or not the claim started with Smith or not, it doesn't completely matter, DW Lee, Glen McDonald, Rob Gaudet and Driver Operator all MABRC members, all actively promoted this situation, and did so to promote the MABRC, so they are involved and are culpable in the outcome.
- Second larger point: Be open minded my ass, these people made the largest claim possible, they claimed to have alive specimen, not had, but currently have.... so the only acceptable proof is the creature itself, not video, not photos, not audio, the actual living breathing creature. And why do they owe this to us? Because, they couldn't just conduct their study and keep it quiet and do the work. They had to be attention mongers and make the claims they did to the far points of Facebook and beyond. Therefore, you made the claims, show the monkey, plain and simple. Put up or shut up, you guys have made tall claims for years, but this one goes too far, and we want proof.
- Third larger point: Fantastic claims require fantastic evidence, and again, the MABRC did nothing to separate themselves from the situation, they wanted in on it and they are part of it. They don't have the luxury to cut and run, because they themselves simply denied themselves by actively promoted these claims as if they were real. Why, they wanted their share of the glory. To wit, they put themselves in the chair they now sit, so deal with said seat as it heats up.
Who’s at fault: I probably come off like I blame entire MABRC for this situation, and there's some partial truth in that. I think there are a few levels of blame. For Team Quantra to be guilty of a hoax, they need to exist, and we frankly no proof they do. They may well be a product of Ed Smith's imagination, if he is not a product of Lee's imagination or a machination of those who have an active vendetta against the MABRC and others. Some may be aware of that situation, some may not, suffice to say that's another story, another time. If they can prove Ed is real, Ed is the hoaxer, if not, figure it out. But many of us aren't convinced he's a real boy, so you are left with those who are left, namely Lee and DO.
Even if Smith is real, as told by those on the inside of this situation, the only proof Lee ever had of either the Orig-6 or Quantra's existence came through one source, Ed Smith and his word for it. So, either Lee is gullible, or made the whole thing up, or bears the burden of proving Quantra actually exists. The same goes for Driver Operator, he claimed he dined with Smith, so he knows if Smith actually exists, and the same burden of proof is on him, because HE MADE THE CLAIM. Either this whole story is a product of DO's gullibility, or a conspiracy of horse puckey made up by him and Lee and maybe some others, or they owe us the proof otherwise, BECAUSE, to beat the dead horse they made the claims.
As for McDonald and Gaudet, they are both MABRC members, and it may be that they are guilty of merely being good soldiers, gullible ones but good ones in intent, by promoting this whole thing all over Facebook and Squatch Unlimited and elsewhere, BUT, they chose to involve themselves so assuming their intentions were sincere, they still willing promoted this situation and put themselves in the mix. And this may well be a flaw within this group, the gullibility index and a lack of critical thinking. With claims this tall being made, they should be challenged for proof.
Why they are at fault: That will depend on how much actual truth comes out of this maze of bull shit. At a minimum, the MABRC leadership bears guilt because they willing and actively promoted the situation, and blindly believed Ed Smith, just like Bulletmaker before him. The leadership of this group are known Attention mongers, obviously gullible and with dubious motives. The rest of the group seems to follow these two with blinders on, and that is the major downfall of their group as a whole. If Ed Smith can be dragged into the light, he's right alongside these two, either a hoaxer, or damn gullible. Neither is good.
Or, Smith doesn't exist in which case he's DW's imaginary friend, or a machination of a nemesis of this group who has apparently has been playing them for years, just, like, Bulletmaker before. So dance around that awful "H" word all you want, the burden to prove it's not, and the burden of proof of Smith's reality lies with Lee and DO, and they have talked themselves into a corner. Prove it's not a hoax or be seen as hoaxers. You don't get the out of crying victim without proving that Ed actually is a real person, and even then they get to look stupid for being the victim of a second long term hoax. Unless Smith can proof otherwise, but the claim has been made that he is conveniently under a Non-Disclosure Agreement with his fictional friends, so don't hold your breath there. The 99% likelihood is this was a hoax, a grandiose and poorly executed one, they got greedy and it boils down to whose hoax it. Smith's or Lee's.
Input from others: I've heard from ex members of this group of late and have things around, and have heard from folks that were involved in this farce, and it's fascinating the amount of conflicting information you here. Ed is real, but he's not. Or he was a mole created by whom have vendettas. Which is real? Is any of it real? After a while your head starts to hurt. The fact is the leadership of this group has been hoaxed before, has demonstrated on multiple forums that they are in fact insecure and will storm off of any forum that doesn’t want to believe their grand claims. From day one they have claimed all kinds of interactions with something that may not exist and offered crap for proof other than they have been hoaxed long term definitely once, possibly twice. This whole situation has effectively in my mind, killed any credibility. I predict they will want to cut their losses, (Ed Smith is suspended from their pulpit as this is written), they will cry victim and attack their critics, myself included. But they really ought to look in the mirror, HARD.
What to learn from this farce: The folks who were "invited to play bridge" are to be commended in my opinion for being skeptical, and not getting sucked in, but one wonders if that was ever meant to happen. It was a little too reminiscent of 2008, and it wasn't a few days before the whole mystery meeting was called off anyway. But the major lesson for the community as a whole is it needs to pull its collective head out of its backside and actively embrace critical thinking. The hucksters of this subject continue to pull their shenanigans because people want to believe to the point of clouded judgment. It isn't rocket science that the same hucksters pull the same crap year after year after year. Dyer had a freezer monkey in 2008, now he has a tent monkey, is either real? YOU KNOW IT ISN'T! Others profit off the soap opera, it doesn't help. Like it or not, Daisy is not in a box, Ketchum is qualified to conduct her fake study and the MABRC is too dubious or gullible to be taken seriously.
Have higher standards toward the burden of proof. End tirade and to all a good night.
Posted by Shawn at 1/10/2013 06:16:00 PM